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  • Hi, this is the wiki admin.

    Your spelling of the word 'militia' is for whatever reason inaccurate and you type it "Militsiya". I'm not sure where this came from, but I STRONGLY suggest you get some spelling education before you edit anymore articles. Your way of spelling it is wrong and you've done this on TWO articles. This is action that I consider vandalism, and this is NOT ALLOWED on this site.



    Furthermore, I have no clue why you removed the plot hole in Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow regarding Gabe killing Gregorov. SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS REQUIRED FOR ANY CLAIMS on this website.

    Continuing ANY of your above actions WILL result in disciplinary action.

    If you have any questions, feel free to respond to me.

    I'm not trying to threaten you, but there are rules and regulations for this website. I hope you understand.

    Thanks for your cooperation.

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    • "and you type it "Militsiya". I'm not sure where this came from"

      It's Russian transliteration of "Militia" word, "Милиция". And yeah, it's wrong to spell it like that on English language.

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    • no need to defend him. i wanna see what he replies with. if it's serious enough it probably warrants a ban.

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    • Woah, I know that you are admin, but please, chill. There is nothing critical. Anyway, let me answer your questions. Also, sorry that I didn't reply earlier, since I was busy with some stuff.

      Regarding Russian Militia. From what I checked, FoxHand seems to be right that "Militsiya" is not an actual word in English language, though I have seen the word "Militsiya" being used online by various sites and resources when refering to Russian Militia. Technically, it's actually not a wrong way to spell it, since it's a transliteration that helps to avoid confusion between Russian Militia that was a police force and the common definition of the term "militia". I did the change, because I thought it would make more sense and avoid confusion.

      Now about Logan killing Uri in Logan's Shadow. I played the game long ago, so my memory ain't that bright, but I for sure do not remember Logan being sent to kill Uri in it. I suppose it is refering to the bonus material (also mentioned in The Omega Strain section of Uri's page on this wiki) from the game, that was showing the scrapped concept of the Mujari's mission from Omega, in which Logan was the one being playable and was also supposed to kill Uri. Thats the thing, it shouldn't be in the section about Logan's Shadow's plot holes, since it's a bonus material showing the scrapped concept of a mission, which wasn't even from Logan's Shadow itself.

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    • "Regarding Russian Militia. From what I checked, FoxHand seems to be right that "Militsiya" is not an actual word in English language, though I have seen the word "Militsiya" being used online by various sites and resources when refering to Russian Militia. Technically, it's actually not a wrong way to spell it, since it's a transliteration that helps to avoid confusion between Russian Militia that was a police force and the common definition of the term "militia". I did the change, because I thought it would make more sense and avoid confusion."

      I'm not sure what these sites and resources are but this is an ENGLISH language. To avoid confusion it might be better changed to "Russian police" I reckon

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    • Militia (in terms of Russian police force that used to be of course) and police still bear different names though (yeah, I know that they are still a police force and all though).

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    • As for the Gabe and Greg stuff, I listed it because of the fact that we can see it in locked files. It's part of the game. I know it was certainly scrapped, so we can make mention that this was cut from the main game.

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    • JohnSmirnov wrote:
      Militia (in terms of Russian police force that used to be of course) and police still bear different names though (yeah, I know that they are still a police force and all though).

      How do you suggest we handle this then? I want to avoid confusing people with foreign languages. I mean sure, you can post the literal translation on the Russian wiki but as much as possible we use English here.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_of_Russia

      If you read this it says the police replaced the militia in 2011

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    • In the game Lian calls them Russian Militia, in all briefings they have been called Militia. "Don't kill Moscow Militia", "running from the Militia", "the Russian Militia shows on the scene". Really, what else to discuss here?

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    • FoxHand wrote:
      In the game Lian calls them Russian Militia, in all briefings they have been called Militia. "Don't kill Moscow Militia", "running from the Militia", "the Russian Militia shows on the scene". Really, what else to discuss here?

      Yeah, I actually just checked the missions again. Thats my bad here.

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    • Spirit Slasher wrote:
      As for the Gabe and Greg stuff, I listed it because of the fact that we can see it in locked files. It's part of the game. I know it was certainly scrapped, so we can make mention that this was cut from the main game.

      Then "Gabe is sent to kill Gregorav for no reason whatsoever" has no place there, unless details are elaborated, because it is misleading, since there is no mission or mention in LS's story about Gabe killing him. If my memory is not playing tricks on me, I suppose the talk (Gabe being sent to kill Uri) is about a scrapped original version of Logan's Shadow, that was supposed to cover Gabe's and Xian's actions during the events of The Omega Strain.

      One more thing about Militsiya thing. I know that Wikipedia is not a really good source of information and all that, but since you brought it up, it is one of the sites that refered to them as Militsiya (though they refer to them as militia too). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militsiya

      Well, seems like the right word to use here is Militia anyway, especially considering that they are refered to as Militia in the game itself.

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    • So yeah. I am kinda confused now, was the mission scrapped from the final version of Logan's Shadow (concept-wise) or it was supposed to be a part of the mission in the scrapped version that would cover Gabe and Lian's actions during Omega Strain events?

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    • Well given that Gregorav's treachery was only revealed in OS, I'm betting there's a SHITLOAD of content that got cut from Logan's Shadow. It's possible that it was origianlly supposed to be in LS but then got scrapped.

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    • Speaking, what material is it and how was it found exactly? I have been trying to look up, but found nothing, except that last paragraph in the Omega Strain Plot section of Gregorav's page on this wiki https://syphonfilter.fandom.com/wiki/Uri_Gregorov

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    • The quality is shit-ass but there's a video of it on my youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGTxja3yLNw It's said that "it would have been an original mission" of Gabe attempting to kill Greg.


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    • Thanks to both of you! That was interesting, not sure why they had to lock it though.

      It also really sucks that they never realized that Omega Strain tie-in concept. It looks like it really could have been a nice game.

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    • Well the original form of LS was actually supposed to look almost like OS. 


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5lvZLDdkm4 Early LS gameplay



      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL2VPA5PosA prototype gameplay



      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5zUF2gwPTA concept of LS



      Like I said, my channel has all the locked files

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    • (Sorry for late reply, was really busy)

      Yeah, I am aware of that. I do not understand why they decided to drop the idea completely though, it really looks like it could have been it's own separate game and probably a something to those who didn't like the OS itself.

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    • It was decided early on that what we now know as The Omega Strain was to be an online-only game from very early on in development. The footage -in other words the beta footage where you play as Gabe and Lian -  and such was actually some scrapped stuff from an earlier version of the PSP game (which at the time was known as Logan's Shadow for some reason, before they went with Dark Mirror instead --> Logan's Shadow was obviously re-used later on). The early version of the PSP game basically ran on a modified version of the TOS engine, which is why it looks so similar to TOS in terms of gameplay and controls.

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